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  Who Likes 80's "Modern Rock"?

  by Open mind in

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  Alligator Wisdom

  I'd like to add to this great list :

  MIDNIGHT OIL

  DEVO

  ELVIS COSTELLO

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  BETHELITES - Whatever Became of?

  by Black Man in

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  i often times wonder what happened to certain bethelites that i ran around with during my 1990s tenure there.

  while there are still a few left there, the greater majority of them aren't there for various reasons (marriage, disillusionment, left the borg, etc).

  a couple of cats i wonder about - there was one brother who i believe was from kansas, who got his fingers cut off in a printing press.

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  I know plenty.

  One brother was in laundry for close to ten years. He left Bethel because it was boring for a person in his 20's to be leading a life which was getting him nowhere. Eventually he found his way back to his former congregation with his family and is still there now. He got a job at his father's business. He is using his former "Bethel" status and current elder position to try and find a wife in the JW organization who looks for a title in a man. I'm sure that any sister out there would be glad to know that he'll probably take care of the washing.

  One brother was in printing. I believe he was binding books. He was there for ten years. He left Bethel because of health reasons. The work was too hard for the small fragile frame he had (5'5" 120 lbs). He tried to tough it out, but it became too much for him. He found his way back to the area he was from and got married. He served for an elder in his wife's congregation for about three years before stepping down. He is now a casual JW. I wouldn't be surprised if he was lurking here.

  One brother was in shipping. He was a suave type of guy. Very handsome and many sisters in the circuit had their eye on him. They were sad when he went to NY. He was there for about five years before he just quit. No sisters in shipping to give him any eye candy or attention. He came back to his former congregation and got married within a year. He needed sex! Later, within the next two or three years, he got disfellowshipped for adultry.

  These are a few examples.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  MTS School

  by Black Man in

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  when will the wts admit that this arrangement is a bust - financially, emotionally, aesthetically.

  mts was something that started in 1987 for those who wanted to pursue other avenues of services without having to go through bethel service.

  it originally was intended to be an abbreviated gilead course with brothers receiving assignments to go into the circuit work, missionary service, special pioneer work or to serve where the need was greater (which oftentimes translated to the boonies or starkly rural areas).

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  MTS develops company "Yes" men.

  In the area where I'm at, many if not all of the MTS graduates are not admired, honored nor are they approachable by the congregation. It seems that only the elders find them to be of good use. These MTS graduates are good in one thing and one thing only. They are excellent in making schedules.

  These ones develop a company attitude only because they are trained to be very organizational in a firm or business. The WTS Inc.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Baptism at age 11 next Saturday

  by Fatfreek in

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  i just learned that one of my grandsons (whom i've never met) will be baptized on saturday.

  he will be twelve in november.

  what's happening within the publishing company to inspire this sort of thing?

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  What is the minimum age requirement for a male to be appointed to serve in a certain capacity, such as a ministerial servant? How about a female if she were to decided to pioneer six months after she gets baptized?

  I can see it now. Ten year old pioneers with some 16 year old ministerial servants taking the lead on a Saturday morning field service routine.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Elders Giving Personal Opinions as Counsel,How did it Affect You?

  by flipper in

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  hey everybody.

  when i was a witness one thing that drove me crazy was getting counsel from elders shooting personal opinions off their hip like it was from jehovah god himself.

  how many times at assemblies, wt articles, etc.

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  I knew an elder that hated sisters wearing jean skirts the meetings or on the ministry.

  I know a MS who was currently trying to enforce this rule. (BTW, he really has the itch to become an elder. In fact, that's all he talks about). He feels as if wearing denim means that it isn't good enough for Jehovah.

  I told him that this sister whom he was referring to "is a poor pioneer living on her own and is just scraping by to make a half way decent living and is making every effort to be regular to all the meetings and to pioneer. Why even think about her skirt being made from denim? Would Jesus even go there? No! Why? Because of love".

  Needless to say, this MS had nothing to say after that. He needed a lesson on how to have the mind of Christ.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Baptism at age 11 next Saturday

  by Fatfreek in

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  i just learned that one of my grandsons (whom i've never met) will be baptized on saturday.

  he will be twelve in november.

  what's happening within the publishing company to inspire this sort of thing?

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  Great and inspiring Smiles_Smiles!

  More power to you and your daughter.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Could Brooklyn install security systems that would keep us from the know?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  i mean would it be likely that near future all correspondence and letters could come thru a secure connection, presented verbally to elders by the co or do, or in secure digital format that would be able to trace all users and readers -so that it can be kept out of our hands?.

  i am not a technical person in that regard - but it would seem possible that this could be done.

  true - fading elders would get access - but if there is a digital trail in the system - if it finds it 's way to jwd or other places - they could soon hunt down the culprits.

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  In our KH, some publisher donated a computer last summer to the congregations sharing the hall.

  It still isn't hooked up yet.

  Why? I don't know. Maybe the body of elders needed a two-thirds vote among themselves in the affirmative in order to have it up and running.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Video from 2007 Convention

  by kwr in

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  this is only a few minutes long, but i thought people might be interested in viewing it.

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  http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=33bf935e94036b41979b&page=8&viewtype=&category=mr

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  Where is this District Convention site?

  I'm guessing, but it looks like Qualcomm Stadium in San Diego, California U.S.A.

  Can someone verify this?

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  The Scotsman...this thread is started for you if you wish to comment....

  by FreedomFrog in

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  the scotsman said:.

  << tee hee - dubs will believe anything, lol.>>.

  that's good because you shouldn't believe everything you hear in this world.

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  Alligator Wisdom

  Have you not heard how bad the internet is, why are you posting here when you know it could get you into serious trouble?

  This only goes to show that there are many JWs out there that are lurking/posting on many many many discussion boards.

  Proving otherwise that the R&F JW DO NOT always listen and believe what the GB in NY has to say about anything.

  Curiousity, doubts, unwavering faith in the leadings of the headship in Brooklyn, bad experiences with the organization...etc. These and other factors have fueled the minds of almost every JW in wondering what else can happen next, to them or to the WTS. Thus, perusing on discussion boards as this. On the otherhand, die-hard JWs stumble on such discussion boards as this when surfing on the internet among the JW web ring blogs.

  It's a good thing...."to make sure of all things". (1Thessalonians 5:21)

  So, all active JWs out there, apply that scripture in all areas of life. Even your faith!

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Why There Will Always Be JWs

  by minimus in

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  i think it's pretty simple.

  jws will never completely die out.

  because there are always going to be people who stay in a rut, don't like to adjust, are lazy.

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  This organization will splint off into splinter groups as the decades and centuries go by.

  Just look at its history.

  Bible Students : http://www.biblestudents.net along with their various factions and offshoots.

  True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses : http://the-true-jw.oltenia.ro/index.html

  And how many former JWs have their own groups, but still believe in many of the core doctrines of JWs (such as e-watchman)?

  The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society will always exist to a degree. But as long as it does, it will give birth to many other branches.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)